6 Round NFL Mock Draft
by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 6:23 PM EST
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AS you all know, I normally don’t mock trades but this time I am going to. However, it is not going to be for the 2nd pick in the draft because I think the Rams are going to take Matt Kalil. However, I am going to have the Redskins trade up to the #3 spot and give up their 1st, 2nd, and 5th round picks.
Round 1
1. Indianapolis (2-14) – Team Needs: QB, OG, OC, 2CB, WR, SS, TE, DE, LB, RB – Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. St. Louis (2-14) – 2OT, 2WR, 2OLB, FS, CB, DT, OC, RB, FB – Matt Kalil, OT, USC
3. Trade - Washington (5-11) – QB, WR, LG, ILB, RT, CB, NT, TE, OC, SS, K, Rush LB – Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
4. Cleveland (4-12) – QB, WR, RT, DE, CB, OLB, RB, OG, FS, DT, K – Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) – 2CB, 2LB, RT, WR, OC, RB, LG, FB, DT, QB, K – Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6. Minnesota (3-13) – LT, CB, WR, S, OG, 2LB, DT, FB, RB3 – Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
7. Jacksonville (5-11) – QB, WR, 2CB, DE, FS, RT, P, OC, LB – Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina
8. Miami (6-10) – QB, RT, Rush LB, NT, FS, RG, CB, TE, DE, ILB – Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
9. Carolina (6-10) – DT, CB, LB, RT, 2S, RG, WR, K – Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
10. Buffalo (6-10) –Rush LB, DE, WR, LT, CB, QB, TE – Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB, South Carolina
11. Kansas City (7-9) – QB, RT, NT, CB, OG/OC, TE, RB, Rush LB, ILB – Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
12. Seattle (7-9) – QB, RDE, OG, DT, LDE, CB, RB – Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
13. Arizona (8-8) – RT, WR, ILB, DE, Rush LB, RG, CB, QB, NT, K, P – Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
14. Dallas (8-8) – CB, OC, OG, S, DE, OLB, ILB, Backup QB, P – David DeCastro, OG, Stanford
15. Philadelphia (8-8) – LB, DT, CB, S, WR, TE – Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
16. New York Jets (8-8) – OLB, RT, FS, SS, RG, LG, WR, DE – Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama
17. Cincinnati - from Oakland (8-8) – CB, RB, S, OG, WR, DE, DT, Strong LB – Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
18. San Diego (8-8) – OLB, SS, OT, OG, TE, CB, NT, ILB, RB, WR, QB – Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC
19. Chicago (8-8) – WR1, OT, CB, DE, LB, OC, S, DT, QB – Mohammed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
20. Tennessee (9-7) – OC, 2OG, DE, 2S, Weak LB, CB, WR – Peter Konz, OC/OG, Wisconsin
21. Cincinnati* (9-7) - RB, S, OG, WR, DE, DT, Strong LB – Lamar Miller, RB, Miami
22. Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) - QB, RT, DE, CB, OLB, RB, OG, FS, DT, K – Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
23. Detroit* (10-6) – CB, OLB, OC, OG, LT – Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
24. Pittsburgh* (12-4) – OG, ILB, NT, OT, S, K, CB, QB, RB – Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
25. Denver* (8-8) – CB, RB, LG/RT, DT, WR – Devon Still, DT, Penn State
26. Houston* (10-6) – CB, WR, NT, S, OG, LB – Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
27. New England - from New Orleans* (13-3) – WR, CB, DT, OLB, S, RG, DE – Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
28. Green Bay* (15-1) – OLB, RB, CB, DE, S, LT, OC – Whitney Merciulus, DE/OLB, Illinois
29. Baltimore* (12-4) – ILB, OC, LT, FS, OG, WR (big), CB – Donta Hightower, ILB, Alabama
30. San Francisco* (13-3) – WR, CB, OC, RG, RT – Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
31. New England* (13-3) - WR, DT, OLB, S, RG, DE – Vinny Curry, OLB/DE, Marshall
32. New York Giants* (9-7) – ILB, OG, OT, CB, TE, OC, RB – Cordy Glenn, OG/OT, Georgia
· Atlanta -> Cleveland: Julio Jones
· New Orleans -> New England: Mark Ingram
· Oakland -> Cincinnati: Carson Palmer
Round 2
- St. Louis (2-14) - OT, 2WR, 2OLB, FS, CB, DT, OC, RB, FB – Ronnell Lewis, OLB, Oklahoma
- Indianapolis (2-14) - OG, OC, 2CB, WR, SS, TE, DE, LB, RB – Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
- Minnesota (3-13) - LT, WR, S, OG, 2LB, DT, FB, RB3 – Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
- Tampa Bay (4-12) - CB, 2LB, RT, WR, OC, RB, LG, FB, DT, QB, K – Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
- Cleveland (4-12) - RT, DE, CB, OLB, RB, OG, FS, DT, K – Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
- Jacksonville (5-11) - QB, WR, 2CB, FS, RT, P, OC, LB – Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami
- Trade - Minnesota (3-13) - LT, S, OG, 2LB, DT, FB, RB3 – LT, S, OG, 2LB, DT, FB, RB3 – Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson
- Carolina (6-10) - CB, LB, RT, 2S, RG, WR, K – Mark Barron, S, Alabama
- Buffalo (6-10) - Rush LB, WR, LT, CB, QB, TE – Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
- Miami (6-10) - QB, Rush LB, NT, FS, RG, CB, TE, DE, ILB – Bruce Irvin, DE/OLB, West Virginia
- Seattle (7-9) - QB, RDE, OG, DT, LDE, CB – Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State
- Kansas City (7-9) - QB, NT, CB, OG/OC, TE, RB, Rush LB, ILB – Josh Robinson, CB, Central Florida
- Dallas (8-8) - CB, OC, S, DE, OLB, ILB, Backup QB, P – Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech
- Philadelphia (8-8) - DT, CB, S, WR, TE – Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
- New York Jets (8-8) - RT, FS, SS, RG, LG, WR, DE – Markelle Martin, FS, Oklahoma State
- New England - from Oakland (8-8) - WR, DT, S, RG, DE – Rueben Randle, WR, LSU
- San Diego (8-8) - SS, OT, OG, TE, CB, NT, ILB, RB, WR, QB – Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
- Chicago (8-8) - OT, CB, DE, LB, OC, S, DT, QB – Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State
- Philadelphia - from Arizona (8-8) - CB, S, WR, TE – Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson
- Tennessee (9-7) - 2OG, DE, 2S, Weak LB, CB, WR – Kelechi Osemele, OG/OT, Iowa State
- Cincinnati* (9-7) - S, OG, WR, DE, DT, Strong LB – Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
- Detroit* (10-6) - CB, OC, OG, LT – Josh Norman, Coastal Carolina
- Atlanta* (10-6) – LT, CB, OC, TE, DE, RB, ILB, RG, FS, WR, LB – Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford
- Pittsburgh* (12-4) - OG, ILB, NT, S, K, CB, QB, RB – Dontari Poe, NT, Memphis
- Denver* (8-8) - CB, RB, LG/RT, WR – David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
- Houston* (10-6) - CB, NT, S, OG, LB – Alameda Ta’amu, NT, Washington
- New Orleans* (13-3) - OLB, DT, MLB, RT, C, SS, WR, CB – Lavonte David, OLB, Nebraska
- Green Bay* (15-1) - RB, CB, DE, S, LT, OC – Doug Martin, RB, Boise State
- Baltimore* (12-4) - OC, LT, FS, OG, WR (big), CB – Michael Brewster, OC, Ohio State
- San Francisco* (13-3) - CB, OC, RG, RT – Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
- New England* (13-3) - DT, S, RG, DE – Derek Wolfe, DT, Cincinnati
- New York Giants* (9-7) - ILB, OT, CB, TE, OC, RB – Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State
· Oakland -> New England: Joseph Barksdale and Taiwan Jones
· Arizona -> Philadelphia: Kevin Kolb
Round 3
- Indianapolis (2-14) - OG, OC, CB, WR, SS, TE, DE, LB, RB – Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin
- St. Louis (2-14) - OT, 2WR, OLB, FS, CB, DT, OC, RB, FB – Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
- Minnesota (3-13) - LT, S, OG, 2LB, FB, RB3 – LT, S, OG, 2LB, DT, FB, RB3 – Bobby Wagner, OLB, Utah State
- Cleveland (4-12) - RT, CB, OLB, RB, OG, FS, DT, K – Chris Polk, RB, Washington
- Tampa Bay (4-12) - 2LB, RT, WR, OC, RB, LG, FB, DT, QB, K – Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
- Washington (5-11) - WR, LG, ILB, RT, CB, NT, TE, OC, SS, K, Rush LB – Brandon Washington, OG/OT, Miami
- Jacksonville (5-11) - QB, 2CB, FS, RT, P, OC, LB – Casey Heyward, CB, Vanderbilt
- Buffalo (6-10) - Rush LB, LT, CB, QB, TE – Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
- Miami (6-10) - QB, NT, FS, RG, CB, TE, DE, ILB – Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
- Chicago - from Carolina (6-10) - OT, CB, DE, OC, S, DT, QB – Matt McCants, OT, UAB
- Kansas City (7-9) - QB, NT, OG/OC, TE, RB, Rush LB, ILB – Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
- Seattle (7-9) - QB, RDE, OG, LDE, CB – Shea McClellin, DE, Boise State
- Philadelphia (8-8) - CB, S, WR – Brandon Boykin, CB , Georgia
- New York Jets (8-8) - RT, SS, RG, LG, WR, DE – Mitchell Schwarts, OT, California
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Oakland(8-8) - San Diego (8-8) - SS, OG, TE, CB, NT, ILB, RB, WR, QB – Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
- Chicago (8-8) - OT, CB, DE, OC, S, DT, QB – Bobby Massie, OT, Mississippi
- Arizona (8-8) - RT, ILB, DE, Rush LB, RG, CB, QB, NT, K, P – Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma State
- Dallas (8-8) - OC, S, DE, OLB, ILB, Backup QB, P – Ben Jones, OC, Georgia
- Tennessee (9-7) - OG, DE, 2S, Weak LB, CB, WR – Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
- Cincinnati* (9-7) - S, OG, DE, DT, Strong LB – Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State
- Atlanta* (10-6) - LT, CB, OC, DE, RB, ILB, RG, FS, WR, LB – Frank Alexander, DE, Oklahoma
- Detroit* (10-6) - OC, OG, LT – Philip Blake, OC, Baylor
- Pittsburgh* (12-4) - OG, ILB, S, K, CB, QB, RB – Audie Cole, ILB, N.C. State
- Denver* (8-8) - CB, LG/RT, WR – Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa
- Houston* (10-6) - CB, S, OG, LB – Senio Kelemente, OG, Washington
- New Orleans* (13-3) - DT, MLB, RT, C, SS, WR, CB – Jared Crick, DT/DE, Nebraska
- Green Bay* (15-1) - CB, DE, S, LT, OC – Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa
- Baltimore* (12-4) - LT, FS, OG, WR (big), CB – George Iloka, FS, Boise State
- San Francisco* (13-3) - OC, RG, RT – Ryan Miller, OG/OT, Colorado
- New England* (13-3) - S, RG, DE – Billy Winn, DE, Boise State
- New York Giants* (9-7) - ILB, CB, TE, OC, RB – Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
· Carolina -> Chicago: Greg Olsen
· Raiders used 3rd-round pick on Terrelle Pryor in supplemental draft
Round 4
- St. Louis (2-14) - OT, WR, OLB, FS, CB, DT, OC, RB, FB – Danny Trevathan, OLB, Kentucky
- Indianapolis (2-14) - OC, CB, WR, SS, TE, DE, LB, RB – T.Y. Hilton, WR, Florida International
- Minnesota (3-13) - LT, S, OG, LB, FB, RB3 – LT, S, OG, 2LB, DT, FB, RB3 – Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU
- Philadelphia - from Tampa Bay (4-12) - S, WR – Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State
- Cleveland (4-12) - RT, CB, OLB, OG, FS, DT, K – Donnie Fletcher, CB, Boston College
- Jacksonville (5-11) - QB, CB, FS, RT, P, OC, LB – Janzen Jackson, FS, Tennessee
- Washington (5-11) - WR, ILB, RT, CB, NT, TE, OC, SS, K, Rush LB – Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas
- Miami (6-10) - NT, FS, RG, CB, TE, DE, ILB – David Paulson, TE, Oregon
- Carolina (6-10) - CB, LB, RT, S, RG, WR, K – Jerry Franklin, LB, Arkansas
- Buffalo (6-10) - Rush LB, LT, CB, QB – Cam Johnson, DE/OLB, Virginia
- Seattle (7-9) - QB, OG, LDE, CB – Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
- Kansas City (7-9) - NT, OG/OC, TE, RB, Rush LB, ILB – David Molk, OC, Michigan
- New York Jets (8-8) - SS, RG, LG, WR, DE – Tim Benford, WR, Tennessee Tech
- Washington - from Oakland (8-8) - ILB, RT, CB, NT, TE, OC, SS, K, Rush LB – Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina
- San Diego (8-8) - SS, OG, TE, CB, ILB, RB, WR, QB – Harrison Smith, SS, Notre Dame
- Chicago (8-8) - CB, DE, OC, S, DT, QB – Antonio Allen, S, South Carolina
- Arizona (8-8) - ILB, DE, Rush LB, RG, CB, QB, NT, K, P – Tank Carder, ILB, TCU
- Dallas (8-8) - S, DE, OLB, ILB, Backup QB, P – Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
- Philadelphia (8-8) - S, WR – Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan
- Tennessee (9-7) - OG, DE, S, Weak LB, CB, WR – Lucas Nix, OG, Pittsburgh
- Cincinnati* (9-7) - S, DE, DT, Strong LB – Kendall Reyes, DT/DE, Connecticut
- Detroit* (10-6) - OG, LT – Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
- Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) - RT, OLB, OG, FS, DT, K – Sean Spence, OLB, Miami
- Pittsburgh* (12-4) - OG, S, K, CB, QB, RB – LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
- Denver* (8-8) - CB, LG/RT - Cliff Harris, CB/KR, Oregon
- Houston* (10-6) - CB, S, LB – DeQuan Menzie, CB, Alabama
- New Orleans* (13-3) - MLB, RT, C, SS, WR, CB – James-Michael Johnson, ILB, Nevada
- Green Bay* (15-1) - DE, S, LT, OC – Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas
- Buffalo - from Baltimore* (12-4) - LT, CB, QB – Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
- San Francisco* (13-3) - OC, RT – William Vlachos, OC, Alabama
- New England* (13-3) - S, RG – Eddie Whitley, FS, Virginia Tech
- New York Giants* (9-7) - ILB, TE, OC, RB – Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple
· Atlanta -> Cleveland: Julio Jones
· Oakland -> Washington: Jason Campbell
· Tampa Bay -> Philadelphia: Luke Stocker
· Baltimore -> Buffalo: Lee Evans
Round 5
- Indianapolis (2-14) - OC, CB, SS, TE, DE, LB, RB – Nicolas Jean-Baptise, NT, Baylor
- Denver - from St. Louis (2-14) - LG/RT - Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
- Minnesota (3-13) - S, OG, LB, FB, RB3 – LT, S, OG, 2LB, DT, FB, RB3 – Brandon Brooks, OG, Miami (Ohio)
- Cleveland (4-12) - RT, OG, FS, DT, K – Trenton Robinson, FS, Michigan State
- Tampa Bay (4-12) - LB, RT, WR, OC, RB, LG, FB, DT, QB, K – Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
- Trade - Minnesota (3-13) - S, LB, FB, RB3, LT, S, OG, 2LB, DT, FB, RB3 – Chris Marve, LB, Vanderbilt
- Jacksonville (5-11) - QB, CB, RT, P, OC, LB – Keith Tandy, CB, West Virginia
- Carolina (6-10) - CB, RT, S, RG, WR, K – Coryell Judie, CB, Texas A&M
- Buffalo (6-10) - LT, CB – Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State
- Miami (6-10) - NT, FS, RG, CB, DE, ILB – Hebron Fangupo, NT, BYU
- Kansas City (7-9) - NT, TE, RB, Rush LB, ILB – Evan Rodriguez, TE, Temple
- Seattle (7-9) - OG, LDE, CB – Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
- Oakland (8-8) – NT, Rush LB, OG, CB, RT, SS, ILB, DE, RB – Adrian Hamilton, OLB, Prairie View A&M
- San Diego (8-8) - OG, TE, CB, ILB, RB, WR, QB – J.K. Schaffer, ILB, Cincinnati
- Chicago (8-8) - CB, DE, OC, DT, QB – Logan Harrell, DT/DE, Fresno State
- Arizona (8-8) - DE, Rush LB, RG, CB, QB, NT, K, P – Lonnie Edwards, OG, Texas Tech
- Dallas (8-8) - DE, OLB, ILB, Backup QB, P – Emmanuel Acho, OLB, Texas
- Philadelphia (8-8) – S – Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State
- New York Jets (8-8) - SS, RG, LG, DE – Rokevious Watkins, OG, South Carolina
- Tennessee (9-7) - DE, S, Weak LB, CB, WR – Julian Miller, DE, West Virginia
- Cincinnati* (9-7) - S, DE, Strong LB – Brandon Lindsey, DE, Pittsburgh
- Atlanta* (10-6) - LT, CB, OC, RB, ILB, RG, FS, WR, LB – Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
- Detroit* (10-6) - OG, LT – Tanner Hawkinson, OT, Kansas
- Pittsburgh* (12-4) - OG, S, K, CB, QB – Rishaw Johnson, OG, California (PA)
- Denver* (8-8) - LG/RT - Don Barclay, OT, West Virginia
- Houston* (10-6) - S, LB – Nigel Bradham, OLB, Florida State
- New Orleans* (13-3) - RT, C, SS, WR, CB – Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas
- Green Bay* (15-1) - S, LT, OC – Blake DeChristopher, OT, Virginia Tech
- Baltimore* (12-4) - LT, OG, WR (big), CB – Marvin Jones, WR, California
- San Francisco* (13-3) - RT – Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
- Cincinnati - from New England* (13-3) - S, Strong LB – Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
- New York Giants* (9-7) - ILB, TE, OC – George Bryan, TE, N.C. State
· New England -> Cincinnati: Chad Ochocinco
· St. Louis -> Denver: Brandon Lloyd
Round 6
- St. Louis (2-14) - OT, WR, FS, CB, DT, OC, RB, FB – Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M
- Indianapolis (2-14) - OC, CB, SS, TE, DE, LB, RB – Duke Ihenacho, SS, San Jose State
- Minnesota (3-13) - S, FB, RB3, LT, S, OG, 2LB, DT, FB, RB3 – Terrance Ganaway, FB/RB, Baylor
- Tampa Bay (4-12) - LB, RT, OC, RB, LG, FB, DT, QB, K – Terrell Manning, OLB, N.C. State
- Cleveland (4-12) - RT, OG, DT, K – Joel Foreman, OG, Michigan State
- Jacksonville (5-11) - QB, RT, P, OC, LB – Donte Paige-Moss, DE/OLB, North Carolina
- New Orleans - from Washington (5-11) - RT, C, SS, CB – Mike Ryan, OT, Connecticut
- Buffalo (6-10) - CB – Marcus Forston, DT/DE, Miami
- Miami (6-10) - FS, RG, CB, DE, ILB – Carmen Messina, LB, New Mexico
- Carolina (6-10) - RT, S, RG, WR, K – Eric Page, WR, Toledo
- Seattle (7-9) - OG, CB – B.J. Cunningham, WR, Michigan State
- Kansas City (7-9) - NT, RB, Rush LB, ILB – Delvin Johnson, NT, Marshall
- San Diego (8-8) - OG, TE, CB, RB, WR, QB – Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri
- Chicago (8-8) - CB, DE, OC, QB – Quentin Saulsberry, OC, Mississippi State
- Arizona (8-8) - DE, Rush LB, CB, QB, NT, K, P – Cordarro Law, OLB, Southern Mississippi
- Dallas (8-8) - DE, ILB, Backup QB, P – Tanner Brock, ILB, TCU
- Philadelphia (8-8) - S – Matt Daniels, S, Duke
- New York Jets (8-8) - SS, LG, DE – Sean Cattouse, SS, California
- Oakland (8-8) - NT, OG, CB, RT, SS, ILB, DE, RB – Desmond Wynn, OG, Rutgers
- Tennessee (9-7) - S, Weak LB, CB, WR – A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois
- Cincinnati* (9-7) – S – D’Anton Lynn, CB, Penn State
- Detroit* (10-6) – Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest
- Atlanta* (10-6) - LT, CB, OC, ILB, RG, FS, WR, LB – Ben Habern, OC, Oklahoma
- Pittsburgh* (12-4) - S, K, CB, QB – Blair Walsh, K, Georgia
- Philadelphia - from Denver* (8-8) – Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
- Houston* (10-6) – S – Tramain Thomas, S, Arkansas
- New Orleans* (13-3) - RT, C, SS, CB – Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State
- Green Bay* (15-1) - S, OC – Kevin Koger, TE, Wisconsin
- Baltimore* (12-4) - LT, OG, CB – Art Forst, OG, Rutgers
- San Francisco* (13-3) - RT – Josh Oglesby, OT, Wisconsin
- Philadelphia - from New England* (13-3) – B.J. Coleman, QB, Tennessee-Chattanooga
- New York Giants* (9-7) - ILB, OC – Demario Davis, ILB, Arkansas State
· Denver -> Philadelphia: Joe Mays
· Washington -> New Orleans: Jammal Brown
· New England -> Philadelphia: Tracy White
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Giants draft is very, very meh.
I hate Cordy Glenn cuz he’s a titty monster, but I guess he’s alright at the end of the first. After drafting him I see no point in Zebrie Sanders. Glenn most likely is a RT for the Giants, and LT is already occupied by Will Beatty for the foreseeable future. And I highly doubt the Giants are drafting 2 OLs. Beatty and Petrus are the youth for the OL, and they didn’t sign David Baas to be an injury plagued waste of space like he was this year, I expect him to be better.
Leonard Johnson is a solid player. But he’s 5"10. The Giants are one of those teams that simply will not draft certain players at certain positions (DB especially) if they aren’t the right size.
Bernard Pierce and George Bryan in the 4th and 5th however might give me a diamond erection. I could see others like Jeff Fuller (really falling that far???) or AJ JEnkins being a BPA pick somehwere along there, but they fit needs and if they were 2nd and 3rd rounders I wouldn’t argue.
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 8, 2012 6:37 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is hysterical
I hate Cordy Glenn cuz he’s a titty monster
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, I gave you Sanders and Johnson because they were BPA at the point you guys were picking
What is your view on Marcus Forston as a 5th or 6th round pick for the Giants (more likely a 5th)? He fits the mold of a freak athlete that the Giants like
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Forston would be a perfect fit
tho I realyl do think the Giants start going with “need” in the 4th and beyond so Pierce (Jacobs is probably going) and Bryan (2 TEs with ACL tears) are likely needs.
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Agreed on all.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
A little oversimplified
I’d say that the Giants simply weigh BPA over need more than other teams, especially in the 1st round or two. They also do not rank needs that much, but rather have their pool of needs and are willing to take the best player that fills any one of them. Last year they did not plan to take Amukamara, Austin, or Greg Jones, but grabbed each one simply because he was there.
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2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
Don't want two of 'em. I disagree with Rorsch on Cordy Glenn as a prospect...he's my favorite prospect (in our draft range)
Dennard or Barron would work as well. So great work in the first. Glenn would compete with Brewer and Diehl (McKenzie is probably gone) and would be an emergency G as well.
Don’t want Zebrie because I think that’s a little overkill. Dwight Jones would give me a “diamond erection” as well.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Just wait until he forces some of those LDE and LOLBs
to suckle on that bosom. You’ll sing a different tune.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Sanders is a wimp
Same reason your Steelers will not draft him. Brewer is waiting in the wings at RT as well. Give us Dwight Jones to replace the soon-to-be-departed Manningham, this draft works.
We drafted Austin last year. Our freak athlete at DT. Though in the 5th or 6th, Forston could get a look.
My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
Dwight Jones is awful.
You don’t “replace” a fast, sudden athlete like Manningham with a relatively inflexible, guy like Jones. Jones is high on the list of people I don’t want the Giants to draft.
To be honest, I don’t think that he’s be a GREAT redzone threat either. Sure he can go up and get a ball or two, but does he have the quickness to work in small spaces? I don’t think so.
I actually like McNutt better and I see he is still available
I like Jones. My chief concern would be his frame, it looks like he is skin and bones. Manningham is skinny but not noticeably so.
My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
I ask both of you to wait until the combine for Jones.
Based on what I’ve seen, I think he could break a sub-4.5. If that’s the case, he’s at the very least a 2nd rounder.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
Totally agree that Sanders is soft.
Was awful at the Senior bowl.
Chris Polk/Ryan Broyles
Based on this board I’d take Polk at the end of rd 2 and Broyles in rd 4.
If Broyles is healthy he seems like the exact kind of player who would thrive in the giants Offensive system
No problems with the Glenn pick, he doesn’t look athletic, but he is pretty athletic and versatile so he fits the Giants well. Besides the Giants seem to want athletes more at the Guard Position who can move around and run the Tackles aren’t asked to block in space as much
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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 8, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
safety too
I still hope the Giants add a safety at some point during the off-season if Grant leaves the safety depth really scares me that it could be like a C.C. Brown situation all again if Rolle or Phillips got hurt
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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 8, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Kudos for doing a 6 rounder
I struggled for too many hours to do 1 round, so you earned my Rec for that. As for the mock itself, I find it hard to believe Ingram falls to Green Bay but Mercilus jumps to the Bills.
Oh shit. I switched them when I typed it. That is fixed now
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Jeffery and Still
I think are top half of the first round guys. Just my two cents on two players that I think are for whatever reason underrated at this stage in the draft process. Maybe if I have a couple hours I will write a post about Jeffery because I keep seeing this guy mocked around 20 when I think he’s top 10 talent.
I like the Chargers picks with the exception of the first round, Nick Perry is borderline first round talent. And with Still and Jeffery on the board I think that pick would be a la Larry piece of trash English. And I really cant afford to break another flat screen although they are cheaper now then back in 09. Great work as always and thank you
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I just have a feeling it'll be justified when we start the 2012 season
but why in the mother FK Alshon Jeffrey is all of a sudden a late first rounder, sometimes a 2nd rounder, is beyond mind boggling.
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I won't complain if he falls. He's still a top 15 prospect in my eyes.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
I think he reminds too many people of Mike Williams coming out of USC
He’s big, but not a great athlete like Calvin Johnson. He’s also got the body type that he could easily get up to about 240. He’s had weight problems in the past (just google “Alshon Jeffery fat” and you’ll see what I mean. He didn’t do much his junior year (I know they had shitty QB play) so you kind of have to watch more film from when he was younger, and frankly smaller. I think he’s a poor man’s Plaxico, a red zone threat, but not much else. Too many question marks to take high in the first round. His combine numbers are going to make or break him. If he’s 230+ and runs a 4.6 or higher, he’s going to be a 3rd rounder. If he’s thin and runs a low 4.5, he’ll be back in the mix for mid first round.
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Mind boggling
doesnt even begin to describe it. To me Jeffery looks like a number one WR, maybe not week one I guess; but definitely year 2. I can’t find anything he really does poorly. Good hands, prototypical size, more than enough straight up ridiculous circus catches, no off the field stuff, and after he catches the ball he is perhaps at his best. He has to be a top 10 pick, top half at least. He is projected to run a sub 4.55 at nearly 230 lbs, that is ridiculous
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If he ends up a Texan
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by theSpaceCityKid on Feb 8, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Can you please make this happen for the Seahawks?
I LOVE the way you’ve mocked it for the Hawks. Richardson/Lynch is a dominant one-two RB punch. I love McClellin, Cox and Jones for the front 7, and Osweiler is a steal in the 4th. But I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, after the evaluations are done, Osweiler is going to be a first-rounder.
by danviens on Feb 8, 2012 6:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
However, Buffalo likely gets our 5th rounder to complete the Marshawn trade.
It’s conditional, but I don’t see any way Beast Mode didn’t reach whatever the clauses were.
Seeing Upshaw fall past us makes me a bit sad, but I can’t deny grabbing Richardson there!
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Agreed - great draft
Hard to argue with Richardson – makes a great 1/2 punch and helps ensure that there’ll be a solid RB that can execute the same game plan when Lynch gets injured or starts to decline. Cox and Osweiler are great value picks that also fill needs.
I’m not sure where McClellin fits in given the current personnel – in a 4-3 I see him more as a DE than an LB. Would’ve preferred a WLB there (or if Hawthorne walks an SLB allowing Wright to move to MLB).
As pointed out, we spent our 5th rounder this year on Lynch (I think we already got solid value out of this pick…) but I like the upside of Jones there.
I expect Osweiler and Jones to move way up the boards after the combine and wouldn’t be surprised to see Cox jump into the end of the first as well.
But for now, I’ll enjoy the dream.
I love it too
If the draft works out this way for us, I’ll sell my house, move to Seattle and buy seaon tickets. Osweiler in the 4th I can accept, I could even stomach him in the 3rd… I am a non-believer he is anything more than that. I’d prefer about 5 other QBs over him (aside for Luck and RG3).
Yes this would be awesome for Seattle.
I love all the first 5 picks for Seattle although I think Osweiler and Jones don’t slip past the 3rd and I may be on a limb on this but I think both go 2nd.
Can't see
I can’t see Osweiler falling to Seattle in the 4th, but I’d like it. I think Osweiler has 3rd written all over him. Also interesting to see another mock with Richardson coming our way. McShay had that as well.
Jaguars
1) I like the Coples pick. How realistic it is, I am not so sure. I think Martin is a MUCH more realistic pick but for the sake of a mock, I think Coples is a great pick.
2) I think this is too high for Streeter. I envision him more as a 3rd round prospect. I think Criner or Osemele would be better value and more likely at the pick.
3) I don’t hate the pick, but I feel like Boykin is a better CB to take. Matt Schwartz, Ben Jones, and Marvin McNutt are also better picks in my opinion.
4)Joe Adams, Harrison Smith(who coordinating to Mayock is now looking like a second rounder who might sneak into the first), and Cam Johnson are all better picks. This pick I do not even like.
5)Interesting selection. I think he is pretty decent value in the 5th round and could get on board with the selection. I still though think a guy like Marvin Jones or Jarius Wright is hard to pass up in the 5th round.
6)Once again, I do not hate the pick, but I see much better value for the pick.
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This is pretty good for the Bengals.
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Nice work on the 6 round mock
but I’m not a fan of this draft for the Bengals
I’m not high on Jenkins and I doubt the Bengals will want to deal with Adam Jones 2.0. It’s a risky pick. I would probably prefer Gilmore at pick 21.
Miller provides a home run threat that they’ve never really had at RB. So that’s a decent pick, but I think there’s better value at RB in the 2nd.
Stephen Hill is the 10th WR off the board in the first 53 picks, which isn’t unheard of, but it’s a lot. And Hill’s not a particularly polished or accomplished player (yeah, I know he played in a bad system for WRs), but that still seems like a reach to me. With two spots they need to fill at Guard, I think they’d go OG (maybe Zeitler?) there.
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 8, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Panthers
I dont like the Brockers pick, I like the Barron pick, the rest are meh. Heres why i dont want Brockers:
Our Head coach has directly said that DT is not an area of concern or focus.
Our 2nd oldest player on the entire D-Line is 26.
Our GM is a very strong believer in BPA.
We took 2 DTs early last year.
several of our young DTs showed a lot of improvement towards the end of the year
Brockers is a very raw and high risk player with very little immediate reward
He Likely would not start now and would take 3 years to develop
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Chiefs
Uhhhhmmm.. we’ll just agree to disagree
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by Vancouver Chiefs fan on Feb 8, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions
Why does he HATE the Chiefs so?
I really can’t fathom this draft at all.
Where did the CB from S. Florida come from? A QB? who is Cousins going to replace? David Molk is 288 lbs, Good guy but we play NT’s and DT’s in the NFL that will eat him alive. A FULLBACK in the 5th and a small school NT just so we can cut em both
SMH
It seems to be the way most people see it when they do a mock.
I think most people start taking into account the FA we don’t have signed, Carr for instance. When I look at a mock I like to take into account only players that KC doesn’t want or are going to retire.
Mock Redraft:
Round 1. I can live with this pick
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Round 2. There are plenty of players that KC could take here over a CB. Most of these guys are on the D. Pretty much one for every lvl of the D. M. Martin-FS, V. Burfict-LB, D.Poe- NT, A.Ta’amu- NT. If they wanted to go offense they would look at D.Allen- TE or C.Fleener, TE.
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Round 3: Once again I can’t see KC taking a QB here if at all in this draft. They won’t go into the season with Cassel/Cousins/Stanzi. Depending on where they go in round 2 will determine what is taken here. J.Chapman-NT, B.Jones-C, A.Cole-ILB, S.Kelemente-OG.
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After round 3 it is a crap shoot. I would like to see the draft go like this:
Round 1. Reiff- OT
Round 2. Poe- NT
Round 3. Cole- ILB
Round 4. Allen- S
Round 5. Rodriguez-TE (same as mock)
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
like that better
and Rodriguez is a FB or at best a h-back
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 9, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I should have put that in there.
He is a tweener at the NFL lvl. I didnt see that he measured in at 6’1 1/2" a the East West game… I thought he was more of the 6’3" type. I would have to pass on him at that size over Egnew or Bryan.
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
I like those picks..but somehow, someway..
I REALLY like Bernard Pierce RB from Temple..to split carries will Charles. Maybe take most carries..and Charles on 3rd downs, emergency’s, or surprises..(lil joking)..I have a major GUT feeling about this guy…should be there in the 3rd (but i like A. Cole)..if he drops to 4th…(or Pead)..gotta taken em..IMO
I don’t want Charles coming back too fast…he is the perfect 3rd down back..but too talented to be used just as that…
In general I think it's a bit off, but Cousins is a perfect choice in the 3rd
He’s got the tools, seems to be NFL ready – some think he’s the #4 QB in this draft. Needs to develop some, but if Orton doesn’t stay, then you’ve got Cassell, Stanzi, and Cousins.
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Feb 9, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
This is an absolutely horrendous draft for the Chiefs
Josh Robinson CB Central Florida
The bottom line is that he is a reactive corner and not an instinctual one. In order to take his game to the next level, he’ll have to learn the finer nuances of the position and is not a first or second round prospect as some think.
Robinson projects as a fifth round pick in the 2012 NFL Draft.
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2981
I have him rated as a 2nd round corner
and after he blows up the combine, I am sure a lot of other people will as well
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 9, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Steelers
Awesome draft. I looks like it’s BPA, yet it fills all of our major needs.
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I couldn't complain if it fell this way
I just want a G earlier.
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by John Stephens on Feb 9, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
How about in the 3ed Kelemente instead of Cole
Then in the 4th James-Michael Johnson instead of James.
5th we either stay with the guard or pick Bradham or Jones depending on how we like more.
the 6th stays the same
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Eagles
Tip of the cap for doing a 6 rounder. For the most part I really like the picks you made, especially Kuechly, Worthy, Boykin, and Quick. I don’t like the Allen pick though. We don’t need a new starting TE and we don’t really use 2 TE sets, I’d rather us pick up Lavonte David or Bobby Wagner with that pick. Fun fact, Gronk finished 1st in yards after the catch amongst tight ends, Hernandez finished 2nd, and SURPRISE Brent Celek finished 3rd. No need to grab a TE before the 4th for us.
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best eagles mock I’ve seen here.. I actually like going TE here.. esp if we lose Jackson. I’d like to go to more 2 TE sets. and I think Washburn would get the best out of Worthy’s work ethic
Worthy would be awesome, but I’m not crazy about the 2 TE thing. I want Jason Avant on the field in the slot. I know the Pats have had a lot of success with it, but they have 2 very talented TEs, a very good offensive line, an incredible QB, and the best coach of the past decade. What works for them may not work for us.
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by KeepSwinging on Feb 11, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Colts
Not too wild about some of the picks.
2:I think Gilmore is wildly overrated and cannot start in the NFL right away, which is what the Colts need. Barron or Dennard are better picks.
3:I’m ok with Zeitler, but Heyward offers a lot of upside, especially if they go with Barron in the second.
4:I’m ok with Hilton and could see Quick or Molk as well.
5: I think Pagano will dip into free agency to get a nose tackle. It’d be tough to pass on Broyles or Brooks.
6: If you go Barron in the second (which I think they would), then I think Foreman offers a huge steal in the sixth.
All in all, not a great draft.
I like the draft a bit more than you, but think you have a point pretty much everywhere
main complaint is that SS seems to be pretty far down on the list of needs you (SH&S) are working with when it’s one of the biggest holes on the team. Bullett hasn’t been healthy in 3 years and the UDFAs from last year weren’t up to the task. Bethea and Powers are the only guys I trust in the secondary.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
they need more than one person who is a viable NT
so even if they grab a FA I think a late rounder there is a good idea.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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I think they’d go on a UDFA or late rounder (maybe the kid from Canada). If they could get Ta’amu or Chapman at a value I could see it, but things didn’t shake out that way in the draft.
One thing that won’t change from Polian to Grigson is an emphasis on value. The Colts need two receivers to get their corps back up to five and Broyles is the kind of guy I’d want to pair with a young QB. I’m a Miami University alum so I’m a bit biased toward Brooks, but the guy looks like he can play at a high level (though I’d personally go Broyles in the fifth and then guy Foreman in the sixth because I think Foreman will be a steal)
49ers draft....
Yes, they need a OG, preferrably on the right side. And they love to use high picks on O-linemen. But there is no way they are going to use 3 picks on O-line in the 3,4 & 6th round this year. Their starting o-line currently has #1 draft picks at LT,LG & RT, then you have C Johnathan Goodwin, the ex-probowler Saint thats signed to a 3 year deal.
Also as for WR in the 1st round don’t see them taking one just because of need, outside of Blackmon ALL these prospects have their flaws, heck even blackmon has his flaws. They are better equipped taking going FA route, when you have VJax,DJax,Bowie & Stevie out there on the market. Since I believe they have over 50mill in cap space once March hits. Then they might take a WR in the mid rounds such as a Criner/McNutt/Adams.
Lastly IF 49ers can’t trade up to get a Konz for that hole at RG or can’t trade back out of #30, then they will go BPA. Which will be a CB/OLB/S at #30. Because not only a need for that team but at #30 their will be better overall prospects at secondary & OLB than at WR in this draft.
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ooh forgot Colston is on the FA market as well....
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 8, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Question: What prospect has no flaws?
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
touche, but this wr core is weak at the top....
but the multiple picks of o-linemen in mid rounds?
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 8, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
I have trouble understanding the Niners needs
IF you could help me out and list their needs in order, that would be wonderful
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
IF they can't trade up for Konz & have to pick at #30
1a. CB/S (have to resign Rogers & Goldson, back ups are FA’s as well ie. Reggie Smith)
1b. OLB ( thin at this position after Aldon & Haralson, team has to re-sign Brooks the starter on other side)
3. WR (put this here because they will go FA & draft one as well)
4. OG preferably on the right side
5. RB (yes they have Gore & Hunter but they are looking for another not overly joyed with Dixon eventhough he’s not bad at special teams)
6. BPA maybe another CB/S/OLB
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 8, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
forgot to put next to OG at 4: They will resign Snyder who took over for the starter..
Former #1 pick Chilo Rachal, which will not be back at all. As a ‘SC fan hard to say this but he is marginal at best (seriously other 49er fans will say I’m being nice here). Good run blocker but horrible in passing situations. And Snyder is better as a utility man used from C to both OG possitions hence him starting. He was a big reason in why Gore had 5 consecutive 100yd games once inserted into the line-up.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 8, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Actually I think you did ok...
3 OL maybe not needed, but they have glaring need at WR, Josh Morgan and Ted Ginn are both UFA, Crabtree is really it, Wright is good pick there, they need WR depth that could also PR/KR if Ginn is not retained.
Carlos Rodgers is a UFA and likely will be resigned, but he’s aging so even a depth CB (which you have in Fleming).
SS Goldson is also a UFA and likely resigned, but depth there is needed
OLB Brooks is also a UFA and likely franchised but a depth guy would be ok.
RT or RG – I read Anthony Davis could move inside to G if a good RT is drafted or signed or he could man there for another year but RG is a need… 2 linemen are not bad to draft.
they will franchise Goldson or Rogers before Brooks....
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
I could see Goldson, but not Rogers… even after the season he had, they’ll likely resign all 3 and not have to franchise any of them, but Brooks was sooo good next to Willis… I hated it haha.
Yea they will; I hope you are right & they sign all three...
Next to Willis? Are you thinking of Bowman?? Because he’s still on rookie contract, will be 3rd year next year. Either way, just want that “D” intact & hopefully they add another pass-rusher. I know you wouldn’t like that, lol. But hey, seahawks D aint no slouch either.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 8, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
solid broncos draft.
although you should probably add middle linebacker to an area of need. Probably just behind safety (which i doubt will be addressed very early in the draft, most likely will be a need fixed through free agency) cornerback, and DT. I would put it about equal with RB in terms of need.
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Curious as to why you think ILB is 3rd on list of needs for the Cardinals.
I wouldn’t consider it a need position at this time at all. They appear to be very comfortable with Paris Lenon, Daryl Washington and Stewart Bradley. They could possibly use some depth behind those three, although they do still have last year’s 6th round pick Quan Sturdivant on the practice squad. I would think a pass rusher at OLB would be of much greater interest to them.
by hadrarius on Feb 8, 2012 7:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Steelers guy here doesnt understand the cardinals needs
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Great job for the Redskins
RGIII, Brandon Washington, Joe Adams & Kevin Reddick would be an awesome haul. Big time respect for doing six rounds, well done…Rec.d
Except Reddick returned to UNC
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2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
I'm just glad to see Mocks that include trades...
I could never understand why trades were not included. There are definitely going to be trades, can’t wait to see who guesses these trades / players the best.
Richardson
Still don’t think Richardson will drop that low. Top 10 for sure.
Don’t think Kirkpatrick will though that high.
Love the Jenkins to Cincinnati pick. It’s perfect.
Still think Still and Jeffrey are underrated.
Love Minnifield in 1st Round. Dominate player in zone coverage.
How is Jarrett Boykin not going in the top 6 rounds?
Who in the top 10 will take him?
Colts – No Chance
Rams – No Chance
Vikings – No Chance
Browns – RB is much lower on the need list than QB, RT, and WR
Bucs – CB, LB, and WR are MUCH bigger needs
Redskins – Need QB and WR much more
Jaguars – NO Chance
Dolphins – Unlikely – RT, QB, and Rush LB are massive needs
Panthers – Very unlikely. Huge needs at DT and CB.
Bills – No Chance
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Richardson
First, me being a Seahawk fan, I hope you are right and he drops to us.
I agree with your Bucs assessment, and drafting Claiborne and Dennard is genius. CB is fairly deep though and I could see them taking Richardson, Dennard and say Heyward in the 3rd, but absolutely nothing wrong with how you have it.
There is a chance that a couple of other teams take him, but I think you have it right if TB goes your route.
Very well done overall… impressive.
I think Browns or Bucs will take him.
If Washington jumps up to take RGIII, I think Cleveland has to decide between Blackmon or Richardson.
Bucs will need to decide between Clairborne and Richardson. I think Schiano, who is coach who likes to run the ball, would prefer RB in that position.
Miami probbaly won’t take a Rush LB or QB at that spot. They’d be picking between Reilly/Martin and Richardson.
I think Richardson will be a beast at the combine and end up going top 10.
I like the jets mock
I see upshaw going to the bills, but I’d love to have him or melvin ingram. The other picks are good and fill in holes.
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by jets4life24 on Feb 8, 2012 8:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Also like the Jets mock, but
I’d rather draft a SS first because it is a bigger deal. Jim Leonhard might be back, and he is a solid starter whereas Brodney Pool at SS was actually benched for Eric Smith, and that’s saying something. Also, I’d hate to draft a G. Really. We don’t need one at the moment, because Brandon Moore is getting it done right now and I’d rather draft for impact players, like a RB or another WR.
Texans draft was very good
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Agreed.
Loved the draft, but I wish there could of been one more wide receiver in a later round to compete with Jeffrey.
by Slightly Obsessed on Feb 8, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Broyels would have been good
as a 5th WR/PR
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If the Texans get a WR with their first pick, they won't pass up Derek Wolfe with their second rd pick
He’s the type of guy that fits their defense perfectly. They need another inside pass rusher to spell Watt and Smith, and also someone who can get some snaps at the nose. Wolfe can do all of those things.
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Seahawks draft...
It seems as if you picked looking at the best talent left, rather than who fits Pete Carroll’s system. Pete reaches on a LOT of players because his system needs a specific type for each position.
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What picks don't fit?
1. Richardson is BPA, sure – do you think he doesn’t fit the scheme? Need a successor/backup to Lynch and its hard to pass on talent like that.
2. Cox can be the athletic 3-tech to help Clemons with the pass rush.
3. McClellin doesn’t seem like a good scheme fit to me, agreed. Maybe DE? Maybe SLB?
4. Osweiller has a cannon, decent mobility and seems to work through progressions pretty well, which seems to be what PC looks for.
5. Jones is a great athlete (we don’t have this pick anyway) that can slot in at LEO.
6. Cunningham – I know nothing about him, but its the 6th round so this could just be BPA.
I see pretty good scheme fits for 3 of the first 4 picks, with some questions around McClellin. Who do you think doesn’t fit the scheme?
Jags
Remock:
1. Quinton Coples DE North Carolina – Pick up starting DE, to start across from Mincey/FA.
2. Josh Norman CB Coastal Carolina – To start across from Cox, or develop behind a re-signed Mathis.
3. Marvin McNutt WR Iowa – Sit behind a veteran or two and develop.
4. Joe Adams WR Arkansas – Sit behind a veteran or two and develop
5. Emmanuel Acho LB Texas – Pick up a stud LB to develop, and be a rotational player along Russell Allen.
6. Michael Egnew TE Missouri – Unite Gabbert with his best receiving target from college, replaces Zach Potter, and will get the nod in double tight forms, if Zach Milelr keeps getting hurt.
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by rhettchrystal on Feb 8, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Just so you can update your Arizona needs list, and stop picking Floyd.
Your needs list:
Arizona (8-8) – RT, WR, ILB, DE, Rush LB, RG, CB, QB, NT, K, P
Actual needs list:
OT (either side), rush 34 OLB, speed WR, RG, DT, SS, ILB, depth DE, K, P
Michel Floyd is a great WR, however his skill set is more like Fitz. The Cards will be looking for a speed guy to stretch the field opposite of Fitz.
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'd switch DT and ILB for Cards needs
Dan Williams and David Carter are both young with plenty of upside. Lenon is getting older, and Bradley may not be a fit on our defense. IMO a lot more uncertainty, and need for new blood at the SILB spot.
Also, I wouldn’t be opposed to Floyd. Currently, he’s about 7th on my realistic 1st round draft selections wishlist, Martin, Rieff, DeCastro, Upshaw, Mercilus, Adams, and Floyd, but I still see him being a good fit on our offense. Roberts can slide into the slot and fill the speed WR role.
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I like the Texans draft until it gets to the 4th round
They will not draft a CB at all in this draft. They’ll address CB in free agency. They have enough young inexperienced CBs as is. I can see a point where they trade back out of the 4th round to get Denver’s two 5th round picks, then with the three 5th round picks they’ll have, they can get Ladarius Green, Nigel Bradham, & Marvin Jones
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 8, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
My opinion if the draft fell like this for the Jags
1-Coples I agree
2- Mark Barron-BPA right there can start next to Landry with Lowery at CB
3- Heyward or Boykin either one is fine
4- Joe Adams- Good value would help WR core
5- Datko-Injury-guy but has high round talent.
6-Paige Moss- Like that pick
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lowery is a terrible QB
Barron makes him a backup for this team
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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 10, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
You gave us the first two guys on my dream Broncos mock...
Still not nuts about Weeden but I endorse this mock.
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I like the Jets mock.
3/6 of the players you choose were the ones I choose in a mock draft of my own.
Upshaw, Martin, and Cattouse.
Do I think that this will happen? I’m not sure, but I would like it to happen.
On a side note, kuddos for the 6 round mock, you get a rec for that.
I think if Burfict falls to the Jets in the 2nd they will jump all over him (at least I hope)
Bart Scott’s time with the jets is rumored to be ending in the nearer future, and I think the Jets take Burfict, he’s just like Ray Lewis and Rex has a love for players from Baltimore, or players that Baltimore is interested in.
Ummmm, the Titans are not gonna use 3 of their first 4 picks on interior lineman.
I understand its a huge concern, but I can only see us picking 2 interior lineman at max in this years draft. That also, we’ll probably use 1 early pick and 1 mid-late pick on a guard/centre, as this year’s class is really deep (not 3 early picks). We’re probably keeping Harris and Amano at their respective starting positions this year, and I think we might be looking to add someone from free agency, which is why we won’t be using too many picks on interior lineman (though I think 2-3 is the right amount, but not too many early picks on them). Also, the Titans have really no history of using early picks on o-lineman, but I feel that this year will be an exception, as it is a major need.
I also think that we’re gnna use more picks for our defense than our offense. Munchak has publicly stated that he is looking for a playmaking defender with his early picks. It’ll probably be an edge rusher in the first round, as there is no safety worth taking at pick 20 (assuming Barron is gone, which will be likely).
by infinitystealth on Feb 8, 2012 10:35 PM EST reply actions
You absolutely nailed our Team needs though.
Just another note, I think Cam Johnson goes much higher than the 4th round.
by infinitystealth on Feb 8, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I like the Bears pics with the exception of...
Taking 2 Tackles in the 3rd. I love the McCants pick, and would been happy with Massie had the first 3rd rounder been different. With Carimi looking promising in limited action last year, drafting 2 Tackles would create a log jam.
by Joeb'n777 on Feb 8, 2012 10:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Good draft for Buffalo
Though rush LB isn’t a need anymore. Buffalo needs a strongside LB that’s more like a traditional 4-3 OLB.
No to Russell Wilson. I see so many mocks with Wilson going to the Bills. Why? Buffalo runs a short passing game, where the QB is dropping 3- and 5- steps, and making quick throws. That’s what Wilson isn’t good at. The idea that Chan Gailey wants a mobile QB is mostly not true.
Beyond that, I would be happy with Buffalo adding Ingram and Johnson to the pass rush.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
i love but
I dont think Cam lasts until the 4th. Even if he does i would take Osweiler instead then Adrian Hamilton in the 5th(freaking love this kid) then i dont know who instead on Wilson because i dont want him either.
Do we know what round the Lynch pick will be in? Also I heard somewhere that the bills are going to have the #10 in every round not the rotating, true?
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I don't know
And, I too like Cam Johnson a lot. He probably goes in the 3rd.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
Not that its a big deal....
But Miami and NOLA swapped 6th rd picks with the Reggie Bush trade.
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Love the DeCastro pick. I’m not a big fan of Hosley, give us Norman instead . I’d normally love Ben Jones in the 3rd but we already got DeCastro and we really need some help on defense, take George Iloka in the 3rd. Tayler is meh in the 4th, I’d take Reyes over him. Acho isn’t a great fit for us what would he play? ILB or OLB? either way Trumaine Johnson isn’t anywhere in this mock and he’d be a nice steal in the 5th. Another #94 from troy, Jonathan Massaquoi in the 6th would be a great pick up.
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Feb 8, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions
DeCastro Is a Good Start
Follow with defense, defense, and more defense. CB, OLB, S, CB, ILB.
Robinski gets help. Like the kid from Troy in there somewhere too.
Thanks for all the work put into a 6 rd mock.
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And Quick in the fourth? He hurt his draft stock at the Senior Bowl but I still think he could be a steal in the 4th.
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Hate the GB picks.
Dan doesn’t think Mercilus would transition to OLB very well, so I don’t like that pick.
Why do you keep giving GB a RB early? I’ve talked about this on every single draft of your’s and you haven’t even answered me why you keep doing it.
I’m convinced you had Crick go one spot ahead of GB just to screw with me.
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I also dont like Mercilus
Everyone thinks he can be a 3-4 OLB, but I really just dont see it. I think he’s overrated in general, but he’s not athletic enough to play 3-4 OLB unless he’s a project. And as for RB. I would not touch a RB unless it was Richardson dropping to #32 (won’t happen) or it’s Lamar Miller at the end of the 2nd. The problem with Martin is he’s not an upgrade, he’s just another dude to add to a big commitee of average, young RBs which we barely need because we throw so much.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
by BlackPack-fan on Feb 9, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
We probably will take a back at some point to add to the rotation, but it would have to provide incredible value for us to touch one in the first 3 rounds at least. Also, Richardson would only have to fall to @28 unfortunately…
I don’t think SHAS goes back and looks at his previous mocks after a day or so. I’ve told him this one every one he’s published so far but have yet to get a response and his needs haven’t changed at all.
On that note, DL is as big of a need as OLB.
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Damn, forgot. It used to be where every mock had us picking at 32, so I got used to it.
Agree, we need a DL as well, almost as much as OLB. Id take Crick in the 2nd rd in an instant
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
by BlackPack-fan on Feb 9, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Haha I wanted him at 32 all year long.
2nd round would be awesome.
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Look at that.
No response from SHAS.
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Bengals
A few good picks none until Keenan Robinson. We’re not gonna use a shopping list to draft, probably take 2 or 3 CB
Bucs
Love the Claiborne pick, of course. Double dipping for Dennard is only going to to happen if we whiff on free agents (which is quite possible). I’m hoping we get Claiborne and one of the top free agents. If we don’t, we’ll have to double dip I think. The secondary is a complete mess. I like the Travis Lewis pick in the 3rd as well. That’s about right for him, I think.
Niners Re-draft
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Kevin Zeitler
Brandon Taylor
Marvin Jones
D’Anton Lynn
Kyle Wilber
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Falcons
good work overall, and for the Falcons.
six rounds !! I am still working on my 1st round…. LOL
I see alot of 5th and 6th round steals
Jets
i like the mock but would prefer a couple of WR’s in there somewhere and maybe another OLB instead of an OG
Why does everyone write out OC?
Offensive Center? There isn’t a DC, is there? A defensive center? It’s a DT or a NT, right? No one plays a 3 front and calls the nose tackle the defensive center, do they?
If I’m missing the point on this please explain it to me.
Haha I always wondered about that.
Seems like wasted effort to me. I’m never confused when I see C.
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Vikings
First off, nice work on the 6 rounder. Vikings draft was so-so.
I don’t like that you waited so long to address OT, especially with Martin and Reiff on the board. I also don’t like that you addressed WR that early. I think the 3rd round would be the earliest to look at WRs. I fully expect the Vikings to target Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe or Pierre Garcon in Free agency.
You did make up for the 1st and 2nd round picks with the trade and by getting good value in the 3rd and 5th rounds (Wagner and Brooks, respectively).
Also I believe the Redskins own the Vikings 6th round pick (McNabb) and the Vikings own the Browns 6th round pick (Mitchell).
re-mock
1. Martin/Reiff
2. Barron
2. Casey Hayward
3. Wagner
4. Kendall Reyes/Cam Johnson
5. Brooks
5. Keenan Robinson
6. BJ Cunningham
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I also like Nigel Bradham in the 5th
or Carmen Messina in the 6th.
Did I miss Jordan White, or is he not in your top 6 rounds?
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Just saw him off the board in the 4th
I think I’ll stay with Reyes or Johnson and wait for Cunningham in the 6th.
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Panthers
Mark Baron falling to us in the second would pretty much be cause for me to go streaking with my Panther hat on. Plus for some reason it makes me feel a lot better about the Brockers pick.
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by carolinapillpusher on Feb 9, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions
Titans.
I know I’m beating a dead horse here cause I think I’ve said this on the past few mocks, but there is no way in hell they use their first two picks on OL, and ESPECIALLY not three of their first four. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if the earliest they took an OL was the third round, though second is possible. With big needs on the DL and at CB, S and maybe even WR, and with Mike Munchak believing in his ability to coach up guys, there is no way they’re going to use that many early picks on OL and no way they’ll even draft that many OL guys.
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Brockers, Barron, and Page at the back end of the draft
Yes, please.
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Baltimore
I hope that if both Hightower and Burfict are there at 29 the ravens take Vontaze. Hightower seems like Maualuga 2.0 while Burfict has the potential to be a Ray Lewis-type player. Plus Lewis is coming back for 2012 so he can mentor Burfict in the ways of thuganomics.
by CharmCity55 on Feb 10, 2012 2:21 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
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